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  • Chop
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 504

    #1

    Chop’s PT Boat

    O.K., this is my first attempt at building a boat from a kit, and my first scale boat as well. I just wanted something that was a little different than your usual “race boat.”

    The model is a Lindberg Limited Edition PT-109. I don’t know if I will keep the 109 designation – it’s probably been way overdone. Maybe I’ll do PT-73 from McHale’s Navy??? Or PT-694, the real designation of the boat used in the action shots for McHale’s Navy.

    The hull and parts are plastic.

    Powder for the craft will be provided by 2 M.A.C.K. Products 3150 brushed motors (12v, 4.5 amps – max.) and the ESC is a Proboat Riptide (Continuous Maximum Current: 40 amps, 4-10 cells, w/ BEC & reverse)

    The Photos are the parts out of the box and the beginning stages of construction.
    Attached Files
    There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
  • Jimmy Sterling
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 393

    #2
    Can I ask where you got the kit from

    Thanks
    Jimmy
    Come to the FASST side

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    • Chop
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 504

      #3
      From Mack Products.

      Seems like a pretty good store. You can't order on-line though, but if you call you can talk to them and ask questions. You can then order over the phone.
      There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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      • Chop
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 504

        #4
        Deck

        The deck of these boats were made of wood. From what I understand much of the boat was in order to save steel. The picture on the cover clearly shows this. I was not sure how I could transform the green plastic into wood without too much work. I finally settled on a wood grained shelf liner picked up at the local building supply store. I think with a good layer of polyurethane it should seal pretty well.

        It doesn't look too bad either.
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        Last edited by Chop; 02-18-2009, 11:01 PM.
        There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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        • lomdel
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 708

          #5
          Try adding some closely spaced deck joining lines along the length of that deck. It'll look like real teak decking. major challenge to get the lines spaced evenly. Maybe score them with a scoring tool or blunt knife and fill the small grooves with black paint and wipe off residue... Or just draw them on with a felt tipped fine liner.

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          • lomdel
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 708

            #6
            Also read Pat Tritle's article " How to weather model boats " in the Winter 2009 issue of RC Boat Modeller p.52 - 54 for some great ideas to get that scars-of-life look on the battleship.

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            • Chop
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 504

              #7
              Okay, worked on the boat today w/my son. Lots of parts put together on the deck. Did some painting as well. Some work on the deck needs to be completed.

              The first picture shoes some sub assemblies (the hull, deck and hatch) put together.

              Second is a shot of details on the deck and hatch.

              Third is a look at the back of the boat.
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              There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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              • Chop
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 504

                #8
                Lots of the "detail" work is nearly complete.
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                There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                • Chop
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 504

                  #9
                  A couple of concerns here.

                  1) How far should the prop’s be from the rudder and the end of the stuffing tube?

                  2) Is the motor location critical? I know that I need to keep the C.O.G. in mind, but as long as I keep it in the ball park I can fine tune with the battery location. This is a 29.5” mono so I should keep it at 27 (7.8") to 30% (8.7") from the transom.

                  3) Rudders and all connecting hardware is PLASTIC. I would think that I should have new parts made out of aluminum(?) or something else to make them more durable. The penetration through the hull is a plastic tube. If the rudder is aluminum I think that there is enough room to put a sleeve in it so there is metal on metal rather than metal on plastic.

                  MACHINISTS OUT THERE???
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                  There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                  • Chop
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 504

                    #10

                    Originally posted by Chop View Post
                    A couple of concerns here.

                    1) How far should the prop’s be from the rudder and the end of the stuffing tube?

                    2) Is the motor location critical? I know that I need to keep the C.O.G. in mind, but as long as I keep it in the ball park I can fine tune with the battery location. This is a 29.5” mono so I should keep it at 27 (7.8") to 30% (8.7") from the transom.
                    ANYONE???

                    I'll try to make the rudders myself with K&S parts and solder them.

                    Pic. shows plastic rudder at top, and what will be the new rudder(s) on the bottom.
                    Attached Files
                    There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                    • Chop
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 504

                      #11
                      Rudder

                      Worked on the rudder(s) today. They should be more durable than the plastic ones that came with the kit. All made out of K&S tubing. Also made it small enough that I have a brass sleeve through the hull.
                      Attached Files
                      There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                      • Chop
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 504

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Chop View Post
                        A couple of concerns here.

                        1) How far should the prop’s be from the rudder and the end of the stuffing tube?

                        2) Is the motor location critical? I know that I need to keep the C.O.G. in mind, but as long as I keep it in the ball park I can fine tune with the battery location. This is a 29.5” mono so I should keep it at 27 (7.8") to 30% (8.7") from the transom.

                        Come on guy's, just lookin' for a little help here.
                        There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                        • Viking
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 133

                          #13
                          109

                          Hi Chop;
                          Nice job on the rudders, I am still running the plastic rudders that came with the boat.
                          This was the first project boat my sons and I built 30 years ago. It came with a 400 size motor and some plastic gears to spin both shafts.
                          I built stuffing tubes of brass and used 1/8" brass rod for the shafts. I put a short piece of 1/8" inside diameter tube in each end of the next size larger tube, and soldered them in place, this drastically reduced the contact area of the shafts in the stuffing tubes. I also added oiling risers so I could oil the shafts. I threaded the end of the shafts and used a counter rotating brass props. I put a nut on the shaft then the prop and another nut and jamed them against each other, this was before nylon stop nuts and locktite.
                          The props would be quite close to the rudders, you have the motors where I have mine, I built an aluminum bulkhead to mount the motors in and glued it where the plastic bulkhead went.
                          Good job so far. You can see my PT109 here www.dickieeng.com/PT-109-RC-Model.html
                          Viking
                          That Viking www.How2RC.com PULSO
                          Home made 36" DeepVee 50mph

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                          • Chop
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 504

                            #14
                            Prop location

                            Thanks for the info Viking.

                            Since no one else seems to want to help out here, I will take a guess locate the motors so that the props end up as they are shown in the attached photo, about 1/8" from the end of the stuffing tube.
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                            Last edited by Chop; 02-20-2009, 07:25 PM.
                            There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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                            • Chop
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 504

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Viking View Post
                              Hi Chop;
                              Nice job on the rudders, I am still running the plastic rudders that came with the boat.
                              This was the first project boat my sons and I built 30 years ago.
                              Viking
                              If the plastic ones lasted 30 years maybe I didn't have to go through all the work to make mine.
                              I must say that I like the looks of mine better though.
                              There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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