1st build, got some questions.

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  • NativePaul
    Greased Weasel
    • Feb 2008
    • 2764

    #16
    What wood are you building with? If it is ply then just use the wood and seal it with epoxy when finished, if it is balsa, you could do the same or for a little more strength add a single layer of 1oz/square yard wing skinning cloth to the outside. Making glass hulls is a lot of work, and I would advise making a few wooden ones tweaking each version closer to your wants until you are happy with it, before making a plug and mold for a glass hull.

    I, and a LOT of people I know run Leopard 2860 3400kv on 4000-4800mAh 3s packs with 30-35mm props, in boats of around that size, it is by far the most popular Mono1 motor. Pick the 2840 jacket for it instead of the 2830 one for better cooling.

    You don't need a .150 flex for a 28mm motor, .130 will be fine and with either 1/8th" dog drive if you want to sharpen and balance your own props or 4mm threaded if you want to run CNC props.

    What speed and run time are you after? We run for 6 minutes in the low 40s MPH, pulling an average of about 45A, an average full throttle of about 60A and spikes of over 100A, if you are after this speed or more I would suggest a bigger ESC, most of us run 100-120A units, 80A is the lowest I have seen being reliable.
    Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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    • Make-a-Wake
      FE Rules!
      • Nov 2009
      • 5554

      #17
      I've ran a couple of these without issue..........

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      • castellina
        Member
        • Feb 2015
        • 33

        #18
        1st build, got some questions.

        Thanks for the interest guys. I'm 15 by the way.
        To answer your questions, I'm using ply wood for it. Also I wasn't planing on making a plug, I was just thinking about putting a couple layers of glass on the outside of the wood. To make it stronger and seal it up good.
        I'm wanting more run time rather than speed, but would still like some decent speed. It's going to be kind of choppy where I'm running the boat, so I won't be able to go that fast.

        Also, I was thinking of buying carbon fiber or plastic props to start off with so I can determine the prop that best fits my boat. When I get it all assembled, I think I will take it to a hobby store and see what prop they suggest for me.

        Thanks, Kyle.



        Last edited by castellina; 02-26-2015, 05:39 PM.

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        • NativePaul
          Greased Weasel
          • Feb 2008
          • 2764

          #19
          You will want a 4mm threaded shaft then to run Graupner 2318 carbon props which are pretty darned good and easily the most efficient cheap props available, get the 31mm 33mm and 34.5mm if you go for the 3400kv on 3s.
          Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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          • castellina
            Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 33

            #20
            Thanks for the recommendation, the motor I'm getting is 2190kv and I'm thinking I will run it on 2s 3300mah

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            • Make-a-Wake
              FE Rules!
              • Nov 2009
              • 5554

              #21
              2s is gonna be disappointing to you. You cant go very big on prop diameter so rpms are your friend, you got a pair of 2s batts to run 4s?
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              • castellina
                Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 33

                #22
                I don't have a battery yet, but Steven Vaccaro suggested 2s with my set up. I don't want to fry anything, but if I can use a bigger battery that will give me more run time I will be very happy.
                Thanks

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                • Make-a-Wake
                  FE Rules!
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 5554

                  #23
                  I don't know his reasons for suggesting 2s........................you can buy a couple 2s batts and if you don't like 2s just run 'em both in series for 4s.
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                  • NativePaul
                    Greased Weasel
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2764

                    #24
                    I know you are after runtime more than speed, but a mono this size probably can't cope with prop big enough to make use of a 2860 motor of 2190kv on 2s, as I suspect it would suffer from torque and paddlewheel effects before you reach 50mm. If you really want around 2190kv on 2s it wont be very fast and you will have to really watch your weight to help it get up onto the plane. If it doesn't work it won't be a total disaster though, as Make-A-Wake said you could add a second 2s battery in series for 4s, which would give you around the same RPM as the 3s 3400kv setup I recommended and the same prop suggestions would apply.
                    Paul Upton-Taylor, Greased Weasel Racing.

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                    • Make-a-Wake
                      FE Rules!
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 5554

                      #25
                      Yes sir Paul........................2s will be a yawner

                      Hey castellina, I have run these compacts and they are very good in my opinion. A couple of these in series would work well and not be real heavy(although the 2860 wont struggle on any voltage or weight within reason)

                      http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Lipo_Pack.html
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                      • castellina
                        Member
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 33

                        #26
                        Awesome thank you guys.

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                        • castellina
                          Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 33

                          #27
                          Here's my latest progress.
                          If I go 3s, how do I know what MAH to get? From what I understand the more MAH the longer run time I will get? So whats the biggest 3s MAH I can get with my set up I posted?
                          Thanks

                          Last edited by castellina; 02-27-2015, 06:11 PM.

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                          • Make-a-Wake
                            FE Rules!
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 5554

                            #28
                            Ahhhhh, the wonder of zipties.............where would we all be without them.

                            3s will be a nice middle ground that will be decent in all regards. You can use more pitch on a smaller diameter prop to gain speed and not make the boat unstable.

                            If it were mine I would run 3s2p as the motor is powerful enough. I ran 3s2p in a 24" Mini Sniper so I am not suggesting something I haven't done myself. This little bit of extra weight will stabilize the boat more(being small) and give you good runtime. Plus it will help to balance it better side to side.

                            Your question about mah is correct to a degree. The more mah the more runtime in general. However if one runs a 5000mah batt with a 20c rating its putting out 100 continuous amps(5000 x 20/1000) A 4000 40c batt is putting out 160 amps and will not strain as hard so it will have roughly the same runtime, although there is not a set formula, this will be the case "generally"............especially in higher ampdraw setups. Boaters tend to use 40c and higher batts due to the nature of high, continuous ampdraw, land rigs don't have nearly the ampdraw for similar motors and voltage. Realize this however, smaller boats don't "need" big C ratings as a rule, 30c is sufficient, but 40c is better for total battery life and most efficient running of your electronics.

                            Zippy Compacts I would suggest: http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...Lipo_Pack.html
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                            • castellina
                              Member
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 33

                              #29
                              Yes...zipties are great lol

                              Should I go ahead and order the stuff in my shopping cart at ose? I just don't want to buy all of it and find out there isn't a battery that will work with it. If you guys think its a good start I will go ahead and order the stuff.
                              Thanks,
                              kyle

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                              • Make-a-Wake
                                FE Rules!
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 5554

                                #30
                                I would get the 40mm water jacket instead of the 30.

                                I cant even find the strut/rudder you have listed................... Not sure what I think about it............it should work, I am just not a fan and its for a Cat anyways.........maybe someone else will chime in on it
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