New Hull! FOUNTAIN P1 50" / 127cm Twin Setup

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  • Fella1340
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • May 2013
    • 1025

    #91
    Hi Alfa, I am definatly interested in the decals, are they vinyl? If you could let me know the price it would
    Be much appreciated, you can pm me if you like. I am ordering the boat this week and need to decide on
    my paint scheme. I think the colours will work the the way they are though. Thanks, jeff

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    • jetnfast
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 162

      #92
      Wow, awesome hull, so this build sounds like it died out?

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      • Doby
        KANADA RULES!
        • Apr 2007
        • 7277

        #93
        Don't think it ever actually started...
        Grand River Marine Modellers
        https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...ne%20modellers

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        • Alfa Spirit
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Oct 2009
          • 2131

          #94
          All the stickers are outside quality, if you received the pictures you can see. I have ILMOR, Twindisc and others. Size is the same on mine


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          • Fella1340
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • May 2013
            • 1025

            #95
            Hi Alfa, I have ordered the boat. I am very interested in the stickers and JPEG files. Just let me know
            How you would like to do this. Thanks Jeff

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            • axel
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 127

              #96
              Congrats Jeff
              so we will have two build threads one single and one twin.
              We will get a lot of comparism.
              I only feel sorry that we can´t ride them together in spring.

              Axel

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              • Fella1340
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • May 2013
                • 1025

                #97
                It should be pretty cool seeing the different ideas coming together on the same hull. I have already added
                What may turn out to be a major headache and possibly as disappointment to the build. Although I am
                Confident I will be able to work through the issues. I ordered the remote adjustable trim tabs and the remote
                adjustable stinger drive from kintec. I just couldn't resist. The trim tabs have been calling to me for months
                Now and seeing a servo adjustable stinger on the market as well I wasn't strong enough to resist the temptation.
                I have heard nothing but bad things about going this route. You can't this, and that won't work because...
                Strangely though I haven't found anybody that has personally used them. So what the heck! Why not?
                I had already purchased a dual rudder drive setup with a strut built in, a really nicely built piece. I was going
                to use a carbon fiber tube running into the hull so I could benefit from using a strut versus a stinger. Now I have
                to get rid of the strut idea and incorporate the servo adjustable stinger into the dual rudder setup. Its going to
                be a lot of work sorting it all out! The servo adjustable trim tabs should be easy enough to work out
                but the servo adjustable stinger is a whole different animal. It works off a small Cam type design.
                I don't see a 1/4 scale servo being able to hold it in position hough based on the current setup
                So I will have to work in a better mechanical advantage so the servo won't need to work as hard
                to hold position.
                Well, having said that it will likely be the the same issues to overcome with the trim tabs. Most people have
                Said its a waste of time and not necessary and so on. I will be doing most of my running on lake Ontario though
                and there's rarely a day when conditions are ideal to run any type of speed. I just think it will be cool, I enjoy building as
                much as I do running and am looking forward to the challenge. Sink or swim on it, time will tell. I can't wait to
                try out! I may need to lengthen the stinger. Its around 4 1/2"taller long, do you think that's to short on a 50"
                Boat? I am also wondering where the trim tabs would be best positioned. Inboard closest to the stinger
                or outboard and have have regular trim tabs next to the stinger. I was thinking of doing twin sets, adjustable
                Inboard and outboard but I only have four channels to use! It also sounded like a recipe for.disaster or atleast
                A lot of frustration. I don't know if I mentioned what I am running but its going to be a TP power 5692 820kv
                6wye motor running between 8-12s. Starting at 8s and working my way up. I am using a SF 300300a amp esc.
                The winding of the motor gives a maximum amp.draw of 156amps. TP suggested using a esc over 200 amps so
                I am not sure what that means? Using a castle bec that is god to 12s (maybe 14s, can't remember). I have been
                told its not enough motor by many and others have said it will work good. I will find out when it hits the water!
                Sorry ALFA for complety hijacking your thread but seeing as though we are all building the same thing I hope you
                don't mind! I am hoping you are going to get going on your boat to! I would love to.see you complete a boat! You
                can do it! Curious as to what you have decided to run Alex and any other plans you have for the boat.
                Hopefully we can sure some ideas and save ourselves so frustration. My boat will not be making any speed records
                in the build time department. Having back surgery in January so it really it's limits on how much I can do. It leaves
                A ton of time for planning though. (Hence the adjustable stinger and trim tabs!) Came jeff

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                • axel
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 127

                  #98
                  Wow Jeff thats a long to do list.
                  Trimm tabs we used 20years back servo without arm and endpoints to use just the motor to drive the longerd axle/shaft with a spindel.
                  For me stinger schould be 4.8 long.
                  All the best healthwise.
                  Axel

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                  • Alfa Spirit
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2131

                    #99
                    Tell me if you want the stickers.

                    I have JPG files for the FOUNTAIN

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                    • Fella1340
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • May 2013
                      • 1025

                      #100
                      Thanks for recommending the hull Alfa, I got mine today. I can't believe how well its finished. There's not
                      A spot on the boat that needs work (other the the filling the vent holes). The hull needs some stiffening up
                      with carbon fiber but this is very impressive! I really could sent it straight to paint! The hard part will be keeping it nice on the outside while I do all the work. Glad I bought this one and it showed up at the door in less than 10 days packed very very well! Thanks for finding this one Alfa!

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                      • Fella1340
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • May 2013
                        • 1025

                        #101
                        Hi Alfa, I am interested in the JPEG files for the decals. Let me know what needs to happen to make
                        this work. I will need to be changing the colors once I settle on paint. You wouldn't happen to have
                        The file for the word fountain with the fountain crest in the middle of it would you? I don't know if that even makes sense. I really want to have the fountain crest as a major part of the theme for my boat. I suppose I just need to find someone who makes this stuff. Hows the build coming Alfa? What's happening over there in Paris?

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                        • Alfa Spirit
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2131

                          #102
                          Hello my friend,

                          I didn' t find the Fountain font, I bought the Fountain logos on EBay, I mean Fountain, Powerboats and logos, I didn' t use all the stickers, I have a set (x2) of FOUNTAIN + POWERBOATS Silver color, a set of POWERBOATS Blue color, a set of 1st 4 BOATS.COM Blue color, two sets of Fountain logo Yellow color and Blue color.

                          Other stickers are made with pdf files and printed by a pro. Here are the files:

                          z Blanc brillant A4.pdf

                          z Blanc brillant A4 1.pdf





                          Here is what I have for instance, the servo is a 15Kg, I made caps bank, flex shafts are 1/4" steped to 3/16". The rudder is made by Arrow Shark a very nice and strong part.
                          I found those very cool trimtabs on EBay. I need two ESC may be Hobby Wing Seaking 130A HV ...$$$$

                          The setup is: 4092 motors 930kV, 10S batteries, 34000 RPM unload





                          Last edited by Alfa Spirit; 10-14-2013, 06:44 AM.

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                          • Alfa Spirit
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2131

                            #103
                            How to block the openings on the deck and cockpit? I have no idea, thanks

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                            • Fella1340
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • May 2013
                              • 1025

                              #104
                              Hey Alfa, thanks for posting the decals. I will try and find the fountain logos on ebay as well. I wont be using to many decals and the paint scheme will be something different altogether. Once I have nailed down the colour scheme I will figure out what shiny stuff I will put on it then. The real work has to happen before I really bother with all that. How are things going? Have you got anything mounted or any holes drilled. Come on Alfa, lets see you make the plunge. Get the drill and dremel and lets see something happen. Surely there isn't anymore planning to do. What you got there looks fantastic, get inside the boat! I have to admit I find it strange you giving out all this advice to people and telling them how things should or could be done and I haven't seen you do anything other than buying parts and shining up the outside of the boat. Whats up with that? Have you not got a workshop to get things done it? Lets here whats going on!

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                              • Wetter
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 241

                                #105
                                This boat looks very nice

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