FE 30 Rigged for P-Sport Hydro

[properchopper]

Tony, Just got my FE30 this week. Do you happen to have a pic of the turn fin mount? After reading the setup off the Insane sire, I'm a little confused on the mounting location.

This might help, although this bracket is a prototype for the very first FE30, which is my P-Spec rig. My P-Sport rig with the production fin bracket is locked in a trailer at the lake for tomorrows HISTORIC first all FE heats at the NAMBA D19 H20 Gassers race at Legg Lake. If you need a picture of the P-Sport rig, I'll get it tomorrow. Word to the wise : drill a shear bolt hole & install one. [It's a long story] from the AZ race

[HOTWATER]

Good luck on the historical event Tony!! That is outstanding!! Please post some updates (and pics if you can) if you're not too busy sir!

-Kent

[Chilli]

My bracket is a little bit different and unless I'm mistaken, it looks like with my hardware the fin should be mounted outside the bracket.

This is from the web site:

"Turn fin mounting bracket should be located with its inner edge lined up with outside edge of outermost sponson, and bottom of bracket ¼“ below sponson. Bolt turn fin inside of bracket, starting with middle hole. "

If I mounted the bottom of the bracket 1/4" below the sponson, I'd be screwing into gelcoat and air.

Here are a few pics. Do I want the bend of the fin even or a bit lower then the lowest ride surface on the sponson .....and the inside of the fin even with the outside edge on the secondary (stepped ride surface)??? Thanks for the tip on the shear pin!!!!

I bet you thought being a Team Insane Driver was going to be easy!!

Congratulations on the historic race this weekend. Keep breaking down those barriers!!! No pics. We want videos!!!

[properchopper]

My bracket is a little bit different and unless I'm mistaken, it looks like with my hardware the fin should be mounted outside the bracket.

This is from the web site:

"Turn fin mounting bracket should be located with its inner edge lined up with outside edge of outermost sponson, and bottom of bracket ¼“ below sponson. Bolt turn fin inside of bracket, starting with middle hole. "

If I mounted the bottom of the bracket 1/4" below the sponson, I'd be screwing into gelcoat and air.

Here are a few pics. Do I want the bend of the fin even or a bit lower then the lowest ride surface on the sponson .....And the inside of the fin even with the outside edge on the secondarty (stepped ride surface)??? Thanks for the tip on the shear pin!!!!

I bet you thought being a Team Insane Driver was going to be easy!!

Congratulations on the historic race this weekend. Keep breaking down those barriers!!! No pics. We want videos!!!

Seems I wrote those instructions relative to the original bracket and after a party at Charlie Sheen's house ( Man, it was tough getting the donkey up the stairs )

For one, Jeff likes the fin inside the bracket. Says the water flowing up the fin won't create lift when it hits the bracket. He knows his stuff, trust me !

Maybe this picture can help.

I've been at the lake wrenching & testing for Jeff & his team since 7:30 this morning & need to get up at 5 tomorrow to make the driver's meeting on time so I'm gettin' horizontal soon. Hope this helps. If more questions, pm me your e-mail & we'll keep going. BTW I promise you'll just love this boat

[Chilli]

My gut hurts!!

Okay Tony. Thanks for the pic. If you look closely at my first pic, the trailing end of the bracket is radiused on the inside. Thats why I assumed the fin mounted on the outside. From a leverage stand point it makes sense to go on the inside. We'll talk props later

Good luck this weekend.

[detox]

Hi Tony,
It looks like you are using the 1/8" flex cable with this setup. Will it be strong enough?

I am converting my Whiplash to a similar setup, but using Two Hyperion 3300mah 45c packs 4s2p (trying to keep weight low).

Thanks, Keith


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[Fluid]

From post #1:

I used a .150 flex with teflon so I can pull the teflon & run a .187 if need be.

I would never run 0.150" cable with a Neu P motor but that's just me. Clearly it works for Tony.

Some 1/8" cable is actually stronger than some 0.150" cable, this from the guy who made much of the flex cable used in the hobby.


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[properchopper]

My decision to run the .150 ( it wasn't a 1/8, maybe this wasn't clearly disclosed, my bad) in the P-Sport was based on Mark's success using the
.150 with a 1527 in his FE 30. The plan to try the .150 in mine, using teflon which could be pulled if needed to go to a .187 was a good one; I had a disaster at WW VII when the boat was launched in shallow water & the fin kicked up ( hence the suggestion to add a shear bolt) and I couldn't make the final turn on the mill lap and hit the bank. I didn't realize that the motor partially broke loose, causing a bad vibration which ultimately snapped the .150 at the collett. I'm now using the
.187 sans teflon but , my opinion only, still think a perfectly aligned and maintained .150 gets the job done.

[detox]

I ment .150", but I did not know the exact measurement.

I just purchased the ABC 1816/3 prop and was hoping not to loose it ($28.00). BTW did you try the 1816/3 prop?
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...0-50%283%29CLL

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[properchopper]

I ment .150", but I did not know the exact measurement.

I just purchased the ABC 1816/3 prop and was hoping not to loose it ($28.00). BTW did you try the 1816/3 prop?
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...0-50%283%29CLL

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Haven't tried the 1816/3 as yet. Have tested with a fairly stock and also a heavily modded 447/3. FAST but need to watch the lift. My P-Sport FE 30 (green one) is now heading to Tucson with teammate Steve for the race. It'll likely use a X447 which seems to be a good "utility" heat race prop. My sport hydro setup learning curve is still very much in progress, but I'm finding that higher pitch props do create some tail hop.

[detox]

I'm finding that higher pitch props do create some tail hop.

Adding weight to the stearn (such as a small receiver NIMH battery pack) or move COG more rearward should help prevent hop. I am using the Hydra LV 240 so a receiver bat pack is needed.


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[properchopper]

Yup ! I recently moved my batt's back ( 2X Turnigy 45C 4000's) and angled the back of the strut up a tad & with a M545 she was "El-Perfecto"

[Gen]

fe30

tony

you had this goin at 68mph with the nanotech batts but no s rating mentioned were you running 4s or 6s to get the 68mph and what prop ,,
i have asked qestions about props for this hull in the prop section cause im gettin one soon runnin on 4s with the castle 2200 kv if you were runnin 4s help with prop selection would be appreciated ...

and a M545 was best with a turnigy 180 ???

with a 2200 on 4s and m445 in my test ul1 hull my temps on batterys were 60 C and was pushin 56 mph

[Fluid]

Go to post #17 Tony tells all. 4S1P/45C/5000 mAh.



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[properchopper]

tony

you had this goin at 68mph with the nanotech batts but no s rating mentioned were you running 4s or 6s to get the 68mph and what prop ,,
i have asked qestions about props for this hull in the prop section cause im gettin one soon runnin on 4s with the castle 2200 kv if you were runnin 4s help with prop selection would be appreciated ...

and a M545 was best with a turnigy 180 ???

with a 2200 on 4s and m445 in my test ul1 hull my temps on batterys were 60 C and was pushin 56 mph

Gen,

That run IIRC was with a single 4S 5000MaH Turnigy Nano 45C/90C and IIRC an ABC H-5 and a T-180 SC. I went to 4S2P Turnigy 4000MaH Nano 45C/90C batts for the heats at WW VII- many of the other racers just used a single 4S 5000MaH but I wanted some more headroom. I haven't GPS'd the 4S2P setup but it's plenty fast enough that way for heat racing and the extra capacity gave me some insurance for more runtime - If you jump the start or cut a buoy you get a one lap penalty and my driving often requires this .
I switched to the M545 only because I lost the H-5. I like the H-5 for both P-Sport & Spec as well; for spec watch temps.

How you set up your rig depends on your intended purpose. Are you Heat Racing, looking for ultimate SAW top speeds, or just want a fast, great handling fun runner with reasonable run time ?