First boat, Delta Force 35" Pirate

[millzee]

Yeah I was thinking about if you could swap out another esc to try. Hang in there, isn't this sport suppose to be fun and challenging??

Mark

I'll keep pluggin away, it's just a bit hard as if I drive a hour to my closest hobby shop, they look at me and I think guess just as much as I do and the closest club where the knowledge would be is over 3 hours drive. Thanks for the pep up and advice

[Grazacind]

The best bit of advice I can offer at the moment is try one thing at a time go for very short runs and document everything. This will start to give a pattern of good versus bad performance.

There are a couple of other data recorder like the etti E006 or you could or contact Andrew Gilchrist from fastelectrics.com in oz as he has the eagle tree in stock.

[millzee]

The best bit of advice I can offer at the moment is try one thing at a time go for very short runs and document everything. This will start to give a pattern of good versus bad performance.

There are a couple of other data recorder like the etti E006 or you could or contact Andrew Gilchrist from fastelectrics.com in oz as he has the eagle tree in stock.

thanks mate, I'll check it out this afternoon once I get some work done.

[Make-a-Wake]

I use musical notes at times to compare my motor revs in different vids. Your boat is running in F# at top speed..........according to my guitar, my 39"mono with the same exact setup is in the note of B.........5 half steps higher. Your motor is not revving out. The 1717 can spin an x450 to full rpm capability so thats not the issue..............something in your throttle calibration/throttle range is not right in my opinion.

I know the "note" method is pretty basic, and hardly scientific, but it works as a comparison for me looking back on my vids.

Compare the difference if you would like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2tb2z2REDM

[Rich]

I use musical notes at times to compare my motor revs in different vids. Your boat is running in F# at top speed..........according to my guitar, my 39"mono with the same exact setup is in the note of B.........5 half steps higher. Your motor is not revving out. The 1717 can spin an x450 to full rpm capability so thats not the issue..............something in your throttle calibration/throttle range is not right in my opinion.

Compare the difference if you would like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2tb2z2REDM

That a good idea! With that said I guess the throttle cal could be off. Come to think of it, when i switch to the mr3000 receiver I had to recal the endpoints and noticed my boat scream a bit louder. Give the above a try

[rearwheelin]

Seen the vid..... I think you are getting the bouncing from 1 of 2 things and they work in combination. First is your prop is quite aways out there so your stinger is lifting your prop above the ride line and dunking it below the ride line and the speeding up and slowing down of prop rpm is sending thrust surges up your drive cable to the motor amplifying the bounce..

[rearwheelin]

I would say that your stuffing tube and cable is passing one hell of a dependability test

[millzee]

That a good idea! With that said I guess the throttle cal could be off. Come to think of it, when i switch to the mr3000 receiver I had to recal the endpoints and noticed my boat scream a bit louder. Give the above a try

Ok, this is a dumbass question but when your saying endpoints, are you referring to the travel (it's set to 100%) or the exponential (mines set to 0%) sub trim( i'm at 0)

Also, I'm going to get the eagletree system from fastelectric's here in OZ, what's everything I'm gunna need so when I set it up I don't find that I'm needing anything?

[millzee]

Also, I'm going to get the eagletree system from fastelectric's here in OZ, what's everything I'm gunna need so when I set it up I don't find that I'm needing anything?[/QUOTE]

Ok, sorry steve, I just noticed you have them back in stock and I've got a shopping list ready to hit go but before I do I just want to confirm what I need, I have the 150a elogger, lcd screen and gps on the list, which rpm sensor will I be wanting??

[millzee]

I just ordered the eagletree system so in a week or so I should be able to get a better understanding on the boat.

[Grazacind]

Also, I'm going to get the eagletree system from fastelectric's here in OZ, what's everything I'm gunna need so when I set it up I don't find that I'm needing anything?

Ok, sorry steve, I just noticed you have them back in stock and I've got a shopping list ready to hit go but before I do I just want to confirm what I need, I have the 150a elogger, lcd screen and gps on the list, which rpm sensor will I be wanting??[/QUOTE]

Mate have a chat with Andrew he is really helpful. But I would suggest the brushless sensor.

[millzee]

Thanks Grazacind, I gave him a ring but he was unable to get to the phone so I emailed him and within a short time he replied offering some great advise on sy boat set up and letting me know his prices for the e-logger which I was happy with although he didn't have everything I wanted so I checked OSE and found that steve had them back in stock. I feel like a prick but at least when it arrives I'll have the e-logger, a few temp sensors, gps and I was still unsure on the rpm sensor so I grabbed one of each. I really appreciate you putting me onto him as I will purchase from him when I need a few things and in a hurry, I've found it hard to find a good store in oz.

I have trimmed the rudder a little more making the bottom 2" below the chine and I have removed the trim tabs. To make sure the bolt holes don't leak I've used some washers, plumbers tape and rubber grommets and bolted them back up. I hope to get a bit of time on Sunday to run it again and will work on getting the strut angle / COG correct b4 doing too much. Should I maybe drop back to a x448/447 or even a 445, Im confident the boat handles the 445 with ease. After reading up on the endpoints and finding a thread where steve say's that setting the throttle travel on the DX3S from 100%-150% worked for him so I thought I give that a try. In the same thread drwayne say's that sometimes if you apply any throttle before the esc has connected properly and this can throw out the calibration, I can remember doing that on at least one occasion the other day, just before either the 2nd or 3rd run, so I'll recalibrate again to make sure it's all good.

[Rich]

Also, I'm going to get the eagletree system from fastelectric's here in OZ, what's everything I'm gunna need so when I set it up I don't find that I'm needing anything?

Ok, sorry steve, I just noticed you have them back in stock and I've got a shopping list ready to hit go but before I do I just want to confirm what I need, I have the 150a elogger, lcd screen and gps on the list, which rpm sensor will I be wanting??[/QUOTE]

The brushless rpm sensor is the one you would want. It looks like you got the idea of endpoints

[johnson22456]

Here is almost the exact setup. Delta Force Pirate, Castle 1717.The only difference is that I'm running a seaking 180, 6s1p, same stinger, different rudder, and a wiredrive instead of a flex.

We were testing props that day and this one ran about 54mph, with the x450 it went 61mph on the GPS.

Stinger was set at zero degrees, and trim tabs were up.

I don't know much about the swordfish controllers, but it seems to me that its not letting you get to full throttle.

I am by no means an expert, but since we have the same setups I thought we can bounce ideas off of each other.

[Rich]

Here is almost the exact setup. Delta Force Pirate, Castle 1717.The only difference is that I'm running a seaking 180, 6s1p, same stinger, different rudder, and a wiredrive instead of a flex.

We were testing props that day and this one ran about 54mph, with the x450 it went 61mph on the GPS.

Stinger was set at zero degrees, and trim tabs were up.

I don't know much about the swordfish controllers, but it seems to me that its not letting you get to full throttle.

I am by no means an expert, but since we have the same setups I thought we can bounce ideas off of each other.

There is something def. wrong, yours is screaming compared to his...