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  • Jesse J
    scale FE enthusiast
    • Aug 2008
    • 7241

    #1

    big kitty - Cyclone 45 build

    Couldn't resist seeing Sean's cyclone so it is on its way to Montana. I now need to set her up with single motor for now.

    goals:
    - run upper 40s to upper 50s,
    - run times medium (not racing...yet)
    - hopefully not sell it off in the near future (meaning I'm not gonna set her up with twin Neus at the moment).
    - I like to run range of speeds, when really rough 40s is fine, but when its flat out, let the horses loose!
    - final goal: get her wet before the ponds freeze (hopefully not before Thanksgiving)

    I currently have:

    1/4" strut
    long wide rudder
    HT MG servo
    10S2P Turnigy 30c 7200mah total (2x5s, 4x3s, 4x2s)
    10S1P forget brand 25c 6600mah (2x5s packs)
    8S2P Rhino 4900mah, 20c packs (4x3s, 4x2s)
    or 6S2P flightpower 5000mah (2x4s, 2x2s)

    Need to get:


    motor: Turnigy T600 Brushless Outrunner (on order) or maybe a Scorpion 4035 - 800KV??
    Speedo: Turnigy Monster-2000 200A 4-12S (on order) I have a turnigy 100 HV - if I kept prop smaller could I get away with this, or am I dreaming?
    motor mount for outrunner and 5" rails (en route from SouthRiverRC - same day shipping evidently)
    1/4" flex cable and 8mm to 1/4" coupler (on order from Wholt Enterprises)
    Props: 57-62mm


    I have not set one up this big, but am super psyched about it. please share any thoughts on set up.

    I sure hope Jay, Rich, and other big kitty tamers help me keep from doin something stupid on this one - plan on keepin her around for a while!
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  • Jacked1
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 772

    #2
    So far that T600 has been pretty sweet for me! I am building two boats with two of them each. I have had the 880s on 6s in one run and everything was really cool with the 100hv not being water cooled. I am going to try it out on 8s this weekend and i'll let you know how it goes if the esc handles it!

    Next summer i am going to try out how they would do with two inlind since you can replace the shafts in a cat this size.

    Here is a small vid of the boat with two 880s, so i think you could prolly go a lot faster in a cat with one of them. This run was to make sure the gearbox worked so it is on the slow side.


    I am looking forward to this build! I hope it turns out really well!

    Oh and the shaft size of the T600 is 6mm.
    Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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    • Karfrik
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Jun 2009
      • 1177

      #3
      Originally posted by Jacked1 View Post
      So far that T600 has been pretty sweet for me! I am building two boats with two of them each. I have had the 880s on 6s in one run and everything was really cool with the 100hv not being water cooled. I am going to try it out on 8s this weekend and i'll let you know how it goes if the esc handles it!

      Next summer i am going to try out how they would do with two inlind since you can replace the shafts in a cat this size.

      Here is a small vid of the boat with two 880s, so i think you could prolly go a lot faster in a cat with one of them. This run was to make sure the gearbox worked so it is on the slow side.


      I am looking forward to this build! I hope it turns out really well!

      Oh and the shaft size of the T600 is 6mm.
      So you have 2-880`s on a mono,do you have a built thread here? and who did you get this big mono hull from? expresscraft? what model?
      Jesse i`ll be watching your built thread as i want to build me a big boat during winter.I`m looking at hulls between 40-48" and seems everything you ll be doing to yours will fit mine.Like you i wanna keep it simple,cheap,efficient and not planning on breaking any speed records.....so keep us posted....Al

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      • Jacked1
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 772

        #4
        Originally posted by Karfrik View Post
        So you have 2-880`s on a mono,do you have a built thread here? and who did you get this big mono hull from? expresscraft? what model?
        Here is my build thread! It is a home made fiberglass hull i got off ebay when i was like 14 but ran out of money to build a gasser. It is built like a brick sh*t house! It is prolly twice as thick as my old prather fun cruiser and bonzi.

        http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...ad.php?t=16689

        I had almost everything except the motor because i couldn't afford the Zenoah i wanted a long time ago so i used all of the hardwear from the gassers up to the motors so i tried to make a cheep electric alternative.
        Fleet: 55" Quad inline T600 Cigarette boat, Twin Mean Machine, Twin T600 47" mystery mono, 4082 Surge Crusher, 1717 8s Genesis, 4074 Villain, "mini mono", 52" Bonzi, Prather Funcruiser, 2 DPI 3.5cc tunnels, 5' Styrofoam recover barge

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        • Karfrik
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Jun 2009
          • 1177

          #5
          Thanks,..remebered starting to read about it and lost track of it.....Al

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          • Jesse J
            scale FE enthusiast
            • Aug 2008
            • 7241

            #6
            Here are some pics of hull with beginnings of hardware. Gonna start out with single inboard mega outrunner.....

            but ultimate goal is a little different. haven't seen it anywhere on here nor even the Tube. Will update when I have a nice photo display to illustrate my madness.....

            My buddy who works in auto body repair came over last night and helped me fix the ding on the left soponson tip - good as new. then epoxied the split seam and gonna prime her up today. Jeff has my 1/4" flex on the way, so I should have her wet soon.

            I thought it was funny, dog being worried about a little kitty that is actually bigger than she is!

            the big kitty was getting nervous sitting on this couch... most boats that sit here for photos end up in boxes and never come back.... kinda like a little piggy sittin in the slaughter house...
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            • Jeff Wohlt
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jan 2008
              • 2716

              #7
              Those went out Priority, Jess.. Should have them in the morning.

              Do you not need a bigger motor? How are the t600 motors? I am about to move that direction because they are so cheap.
              www.rcraceboat.com

              jwohlt5362@yahoo.com

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              • Jesse J
                scale FE enthusiast
                • Aug 2008
                • 7241

                #8
                Thanks Jeff. As far as I have been told, this is the motor to have for this big guy. Rave reviews, both from boaters and from heli guys alike. Way too cheep!!! I would have bought one for $50 from you if you were selling them.

                Knowing the flex is on its way, I got the stuffing tube installed and the 2-ton Epoxy is curing at the moment.

                Question 1: Where are most people finding the COG works best? I wonder if it is a function also of total weight and target speeds.

                Question 2: Also, where is best height for the strut? I am allowing for flush to 1/2" above sponson base.
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                • Jeff Wohlt
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 2716

                  #9
                  How about this one for a smaller rig like the MG or HOTR cat?

                  http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...0kv_(500_Class)
                  www.rcraceboat.com

                  jwohlt5362@yahoo.com

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                  • Jeff Wohlt
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2716

                    #10
                    Safe is 35% CG and then move back if you can. As far as prop depth. I like to have 75% of one blade in the water. I try not to have the entire blade in to lower the amp draw. Depends also if the prop has been detonged, etc.

                    Heck, you know what you are doing! Get it out there and let her eat a couple laps and bring it in. No video...it didn't happen :)
                    www.rcraceboat.com

                    jwohlt5362@yahoo.com

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                    • Jesse J
                      scale FE enthusiast
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 7241

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jeff Wohlt View Post
                      How about this one for a smaller rig like the MG or HOTR cat?

                      http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...0kv_(500_Class)
                      Heck, I'd try that one just cause its so cool lookin!!

                      --

                      cool, I have some instinct on this, but no actual practice at this size.

                      Nice, I like that: I will video or die trying - or something like that....
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                      • Rumdog
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 6453

                        #12
                        I'm thinking you'll end up with the strut around 1/2" above the sponsons. How fast are you aiming to push her Jesse?

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                        • Eodman
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1253

                          #13
                          Hey Jesse, didn't you say you would keep the Intruder for awhile too She now resides in NJ!
                          We did it with a Bang!

                          Cats Are Where It's At!

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                          • Jesse J
                            scale FE enthusiast
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 7241

                            #14
                            Ha, Eodman you would have to remind me... How is the ole girl?

                            Thanks Rummy. I am looking for fast (for me).... 60's on max battery (8S2P?) otherwise just comfortably quick for tooling around (probably 6S2P). Until, that is, I move to a place with a club.... possibly H-town.
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                            • Rumdog
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 6453

                              #15
                              Jesse, how far does your rudder extend below the sponsons?

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