Some motor suggest NOT cutting motor leads because there length is part of the wind and will void warrantee
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I've see this question many times and answers that follow, usually say yes..Originally posted by rearwheelin View PostWould shortening motor leeds help with this ? Shorter the better ?
well in my professional opinion of over 15 years of audio mixing in live field and studio.. I will say we use 10' to 50' power cables to the speakers and 10' to 150' cables to devices..
If you do not over power the system and run the amps and speakers beyond what they were ment for, there really is not much difference in performance
and with these wires that measure in inches, the loss is not much if any at all
the biggest improvement most possibly see, is they have a better solder connection and that in its self will make the system run better, or for us, Faster!
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Shorter Batt leads are better for overall performance..................Originally posted by blackcat26 View PostOops, my bad. I was thinking about the battery side leads.....NEED PARALLEL CONNECTORS?? QUALITY 5.5MM, 8MM, 8 AND 10 AWG, GET THEM HERE:
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not really just better solderingOriginally posted by Make-a-Wake View PostShorter Batt leads are better for overall performance...................NAMBA20...Caterpillar UL-1, P-Spec OM29, P-Mono DF33, P-Spec JAE, Aussie 33" Hydro-LSH, Sprintcat CC2028 on 8s, PT SS45 Q Hydro, PS295 UL-1 power, OSE Brothers Outlaw QMono 4-sale, Rio 51z CC2028 on 8s
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I really don't need to!Originally posted by Jeepers View Posttell that to the saws racers.........
I've been in the audio field for over 15 years and deal with much more power than what these boats will ever see
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Originally posted by Brushless55 View PostI really don't need to!
I've been in the audio field for over 15 years and deal with much more power than what these boats will ever see
Thats like comparing speakers with electric motors... wait that is what you are comparing
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we pull more watts than what most could ever think ofOriginally posted by crabstick View PostThats like comparing speakers with electric motors... wait that is what you are comparing
not many have seen 8 18" subs move 4" and more under 10,000's of watts during sound check... eye balls move in their sockets
it will make ya sick, for real...
the quality of wire and the connection is much more important than loosing 1" of wire, the amount of resistance is so small its almost undetectable
by the way, a speaker is a motor
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When I was just out of high school and heavy in to car audio (I worked for an auto sound company) I was able to see (and hear) Alma Gates PPI sponsored Bronco with 64 10" subs and 32 amplifiers, approx 40+kW of power, at that time it had already set the SPL record at 162.9db. UNREAL!Originally posted by Brushless55 View Postwe pull more watts than what most could ever think of
not many have seen 8 18" subs move 4" and more under 10,000's of watts during sound check...
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That is bad #@^*!
I do video production as well, and when my friend would do sound check (not to get off topic of this thread) I would check video angles with a HD Cannon camera and my eyes would vibrate and blurr because he would crank the system just to mess with me
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Lets see you power a boat with a speakerOriginally posted by Brushless55 View Postwe pull more watts than what most could ever think of
not many have seen 8 18" subs move 4" and more under 10,000's of watts during sound check... eye balls move in their sockets
it will make ya sick, for real...
the quality of wire and the connection is much more important than loosing 1" of wire, the amount of resistance is so small its almost undetectable
by the way, a speaker is a motor

I actually have seen and installed a couple of high end watt car audio setups.
I recall one setup we had to install a Phoenix Gold competition alternator and a truck size 750cca battery to power it, the car also had to be running and idling at 1200rpm to pull the respectable 143db that it did about 8 years ago. And yes this car you could not sit in whilst at full crank. You could feel it deeeep beyond your sternum.
Anyhow my point was this :
Concert type gear is 240v supplied by an "unlimited" power supply.
The Car audio setups are running on a LARGE power source that gets replenished
Now go an get some 5000mah lipos and see how many amps you can pull from a limited power supply where you need every last ounce of power
This is where every last bit of efficiency becomes important IMO
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our point is not about power supply... it is how it gets to the motor...Originally posted by crabstick View PostAnyhow my point was this :
Concert type gear is 240v supplied by an "unlimited" power supply.
The Car audio setups are running on a LARGE power source that gets replenished
Now go an get some 5000mah lipos and see how many amps you can pull from a limited power supply where you need every last ounce of power
This is where every last bit of efficiency becomes important IMO
I've worked with 10' to 150' cables and the most important things is the quality of the wire, the gauge, and connectors
a speaker is a motor that delivers sounds waves, and with bad connections with the amount of power we use, speakers will get blown and amps damaged
similar to a brushless motor and the esc
I don't care how short anyone makes the wire, if the connections are not 100% my setup will be faster with longer wires
and if the connectors are equall, 1"-2" shorter of high quality wire will not be faster, the resitance is to small to be a big difference
but with SAW you want things nice a neat, and you could save a few ozs of weight in the process, and that can be a good thing
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Originally posted by rearwheelin View PostO.S.E. was short a 580L so went and ordered 1515 Castle motors with water jackets
Wonder what she will do on 6s ? 
Get your goodies yet?
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Not yet, probably in the next couple weeks, Steve is waiting for a batch of water jacket before he ships. I need time to paint the boat too , I painted and it didn't turn out and now I must strip it and give it too the pros.Originally posted by Make-a-Wake View PostGet your goodies yet?
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
--Albert Einstein
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