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  • KillerDave
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 370

    #1

    Dual Drive Head Of The River Catamaran

    Hi,

    I am quite new to this forum and to FE boats.

    I have a HOR32 cat and after a Li-Po fire it is being rebuilt.....

    I just want to know what people thing of my options....

    1, Rebuild with a single motor using the correct parts (probably should've done this to start with)

    2, Build it as a twin motor set-up????

    I have found what seems like a great deal on e-bay for the Dual drive system but don't know if I should go for it or not????

    Here is the link....

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
    HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one
  • bustitup
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Aug 2008
    • 3072

    #2
    Originally posted by KillerDave View Post
    Hi,

    I am quite new to this forum and to FE boats.

    I have a HOR32 cat and after a Li-Po fire it is being rebuilt.....

    I just want to know what people thing of my options....

    1, Rebuild with a single motor using the correct parts (probably should've done this to start with)

    2, Build it as a twin motor set-up????

    I have found what seems like a great deal on e-bay for the Dual drive system but don't know if I should go for it or not????

    Here is the link....

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
    thats a good price on that dual system but i dont like the 4mm drive system

    if it was all 3/16" I would jump on it
    SPRINT CAT 40.........BOOGIMAN 25" MONO 8xl
    EX President of the Offshore FE Vultures Society

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    • Steven Vaccaro
      Administrator
      • Apr 2007
      • 8932

      #3
      If those are the same drives I've tested the flex comes out from the inside and is a pain in the butt. The 28mm motors have less efficiency than the 540 motors. And the 28mm doest handle heat as well. I would get 540 motors.
      Steven Vaccaro

      Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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      • bustitup
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Aug 2008
        • 3072

        #4
        Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro View Post
        If those are the same drives I've tested the flex comes out from the inside and is a pain in the butt. The 28mm motors have less efficiency than the 540 motors. And the 28mm doest handle heat as well. I would get 540 motors.
        yes..... if they could bump everything up to 3/16" drive with 540 motors for 25 to 50 bucks more it would be a hot system for sure
        SPRINT CAT 40.........BOOGIMAN 25" MONO 8xl
        EX President of the Offshore FE Vultures Society

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        • KillerDave
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 370

          #5
          Originally posted by bustitup View Post
          thats a good price on that dual system but i dont like the 4mm drive system

          if it was all 3/16" I would jump on it
          What is it that you don't like?
          Is it that you limit the props? or that it's weak?????

          Ooops! That was slow for me... Mmm! I will email them to see what deal I coud get....
          HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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          • sailr
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Nov 2007
            • 7128

            #6
            Most of the chinese stuff uses 4mm flex with square ends. You have to completely remove the strut to get the shaft out for lubing. Terrible setup! The square ends tend to not run very true either.

            Problem is, the Europeans use and love that setup for some reason and the European market is ten times bigger than the U.S. so the chinese manufacturers cater to the Europeons rather than us.
            Mini Cat Racing USA
            www.minicatracingusa.com

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            • KillerDave
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 370

              #7
              Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro View Post
              If those are the same drives I've tested the flex comes out from the inside and is a pain in the butt. The 28mm motors have less efficiency than the 540 motors. And the 28mm doest handle heat as well. I would get 540 motors.
              What was it that failed Steve? Does the flexi not sit well in the tube?
              HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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              • KillerDave
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 370

                #8
                Ok, I have sent an e-mail to them and for now I will wait to see if they will do a 540 deal with 3/16 parts...

                If on the other hand I decide to put my own set-up together, What 540's should I use?
                I would prefer to have Feigao motors as I can get them quick enough and they are cheep!
                HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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                • Steven Vaccaro
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8932

                  #9
                  Originally posted by KillerDave View Post
                  What was it that failed Steve? Does the flexi not sit well in the tube?
                  I dont think I said it failed. Its just a pain removing the motor to get the flex shaft out.
                  Steven Vaccaro

                  Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                  • Steven Vaccaro
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8932

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KillerDave View Post
                    Ok, I have sent an e-mail to them and for now I will wait to see if they will do a 540 deal with 3/16 parts...

                    If on the other hand I decide to put my own set-up together, What 540's should I use?
                    I would prefer to have Feigao motors as I can get them quick enough and they are cheep!
                    Head of the River is not a manufacturer. They real manufacturer doesn't make many 3/16" parts.
                    Steven Vaccaro

                    Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                    • NitroVal
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 423

                      #11
                      Im very curious as to ponder that the same manufacturer out of Hong Kong that make those parts, makes the same parts for Venom. If so, I can attest the drive cables have workes well for me so far and the surface drives are easy to setup. The motors are the parts that I would ditch. They wont last long...
                      But yes, 4mm is a PITA to find props and hardware for. If you wanna do it right, find a 3/16" drive
                      The RTR Nightmare- Electric King of Shaves
                      Now with 540s- 62mph
                      New setup- Etti 150A's, Turnigy 2600s, 5S, X442s and a whole lot of cooling hoses

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                      • KillerDave
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 370

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro View Post
                        I dont think I said it failed. Its just a pain removing the motor to get the flex shaft out.
                        Sorry Steven, I miss-read your post....
                        HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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                        • KillerDave
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 370

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NitroVal View Post
                          Im very curious as to ponder that the same manufacturer out of Hong Kong that make those parts, makes the same parts for Venom. If so, I can attest the drive cables have workes well for me so far and the surface drives are easy to setup. The motors are the parts that I would ditch. They wont last long...
                          But yes, 4mm is a PITA to find props and <a onMouseOver="javascript:window.status='hardware';r eturn true;" onMouseOut="javascript:window.status='';return true;" href="http://parrotcoupe.info/?v=4%2E03&ss=hardware">hardware</a> for. If you wanna do it right, find a 3/16" drive
                          Making the 3/16 props fit is no problem, I have made adaptors to take up the gap...
                          HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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                          • Steven Vaccaro
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 8932

                            #14
                            Making props fit isnt the problem. Removing the cable to oil it is. The cable doesnt come out of the strut end, you have to first remove the motor and the cable comes out of the inside.
                            Steven Vaccaro

                            Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                            • KillerDave
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 370

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro View Post
                              Making props fit isnt the problem. Removing the cable to oil it is. The cable doesnt come out of the strut end, you have to first remove the motor and the cable comes out of the inside.
                              A pain for sure but a necessary one...
                              If I went upto 540 motors, What would you sugest?

                              I was thinking of two Feigao 10L's running on one 4S each....
                              Mayby 442L/R props too?????
                              Last edited by KillerDave; 11-14-2009, 11:16 AM.
                              HPR C-5009, Riptide48, PaynPak 1/12, Miss Budweiser 1/8 Hydro, Miss Freya (own design 1/8 Hydro), HOR 32, Twin 380 HOR 32, Magin one

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