House health bill makes private medical insurance illegal

[Flying Scotsman]

Understandably insurance companies are in the business to make a buck. But actively seaching for loopholes to not pay on claims, after a significant time has passed since a policy was sold, is just plain wrong. What the real issue seems to be, is what is the price of life? In essence, is it ok to tell someone that they cannot have the kind of healthcare that would save their life because somebody might not get paid? Something is very disturbing about that. More should be done in preventative healthcare. Healthy lifestyles should be encouraged. Maybe a tax on unhealthy foodstuffs should be levied? We should have more compassion for our fellow humans than we do for our wallets.
We all agree that there should be something done. But we don't agree how. Can someone please provide some suggestions rather than political bantering?

Ower weight, smoking and other bad food choices, do you know who you are? I
have done them all. Trying to stay on the straight and narrow for my health, not a pharmaceutical's CFO's wet dream.

Douggie

[Steven Vaccaro]

The government hasn't done a good job running things. What makes you guys think that this is going to be better? I'm all for helping out our local citizens that cant afford it. I don't want to see people without health care. I'm not that much of a tightwad. I would pay extra taxes for this. But I want to make sure it goes to the right people. I don't know of too many projects that have been run well by the powers that be. Not sure if you guys know about the "Boston Big Dig", but it was a 2 billion job that turned into 14 billion. FULL of fraud and problems. Just one of the many projects that lined the "connected peoples" pockets.

[sjslhill]

545 vs 300,000,000
EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE.

Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.
[IMAGE]
545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget.. The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-pickingthing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red ..

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

What you do with this article now that you have read it.......... Is up to you..




This might be funny if it weren't so darned true.
Be sure to read all the way to the end:

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his butt.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge T ax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Ser vice Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'
And I still have to 'press 1' for English!
We need to impose term limits on congress and we need to ban political parties. Their only interest is to get re-elected!


I hope this goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!
GO AHEAD - - - BE AN AMERICAN!!!

[domwilson]

Ower weight, smoking and other bad food choices, do you know who you are? I
have done them all. Trying to stay on the straight and narrow for my health, not a pharmaceutical's CFO's wet dream.

Douggie

What if you went to a doctor. He certifies you have these conditions. He receives an incentive for results if you to lose weight and quit smoking. Doesn't that sound like an actionable plan? Of course there will be exceptions.

[Flying Scotsman]

Steven , we have a simillar project for the Winter Olympics transit project that was going to cost this and then they changed it to a cut and cover project over a tunnel project to save money. The local merchants lost their clientile and buisness...very sad.

Douggie

[Flying Scotsman]

What if you went to a doctor. He certifies you have these conditions. He receives an incentive for results if you to lose weight and quit smoking. Doesn't that sound like an actionable plan? Of course there will be exceptions.

Quit smoking 20 years ago, weight is a battle..180lbs and 6 feet tall. the bad food is gone..I think

Douggie

[domwilson]

545 vs 300,000,000
EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE.

Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.
[IMAGE]
545 PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget.. The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-pickingthing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red ..

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

What you do with this article now that you have read it.......... Is up to you..




This might be funny if it weren't so darned true.
Be sure to read all the way to the end:

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!
Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.
Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his butt.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers;
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.
Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
Taxes drove me
to my doom...'

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge T ax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Ser vice Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
What happened? Can you spell 'politicians?'
And I still have to 'press 1' for English!
We need to impose term limits on congress and we need to ban political parties. Their only interest is to get re-elected!


I hope this goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!
GO AHEAD - - - BE AN AMERICAN!!!

And this is why, among other reasons, I'm "Middle of the road." They have dumbed us down. Divided us for their own agendas, create the fear that grips us. And deprived us of the controls we once had over our own lives.

[Darin Jordan]

True enough. I've always liked the saying that ignorance can be cured but stupid is forever. I just hope that we are more ignorant than stupid.

But however you want to label it we have some real issues that affect the very core of how we will move forward.

Hmmmm.... and WHO runs our educational system???

Those who believe in BIG government have a vested interest in KEEPING America "stupid, dumb, AND ill-informed"!! BUT, everytime someone tries to fight for tougher educational standards, there is a STRONG resistance to it...

I'm personally SICK of them trying to dumb-down my kids... and YES, they ARE dumbing them down, regardless of how we as parents try to work with them after-school... Their goal is to make them all AVERAGE... It's rediculous!

[Bill-SOCAL]

HOLD ON THERE DARIN, YOU ARE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE MICHAEL MOORE WHOSE ENTIRE POINT TO SICKO WAS THAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO KEEP UP STUPID, SICK, AND SCARED. MUCH EASIER TO CONTROL A POPULATION LIKE THAT.

Sorry for the caps. Caught it after I typed it.

[RCprince]

Hmmmm.... and WHO runs our educational system???

Those who believe in BIG government have a vested interest in KEEPING America "stupid, dumb, AND ill-informed"!! BUT, everytime someone tries to fight for tougher educational standards, there is a STRONG resistance to it...

I'm personally SICK of them trying to dumb-down my kids... and YES, they ARE dumbing them down, regardless of how we as parents try to work with them after-school... Their goal is to make them all AVERAGE... It's rediculous!

Darin, your star is dying, hurry up... your on the wrong platform, you should be a comedian. Conservatives educational doctrine is tunnel vision. plus no one dumb down your children (kids are goats) your children education is your responsibility not the governments, we same the have that same mentality when it comes to everything in this country, we live by proxy, we elect Politicians to life time terms with so accountability, so they can make our life easier, " Please ,oh Master Senator! what has thy done for 6 years? election is next week and I need accountability.

AUTODIDACT: proud to be one. School is there to indoctrinate you with the minimal requirements to give you a functional chance in society. Like grandma use to tell me, " you want it done, do it yourself". I taught myself: plumbing, carpentry, mechanics, electronics, electrics, sheet-rocking and lay tiles. Self studied MCSE, A+, Novell CNA, Working on CCNA, Rfid+ and CWNA , in addition to some FREE college( the courses are free but to turn them into credits you'll have to register with an accredited school ) credit DHS courses of the FEMA site. I' been working since 11 years old. I've learned while building my home, you pay people and they mess things up. Why not pay yourself?

That's why, I'll continue to say it! this country is filled with stupid people, why? because stupidity is having the ability and resources to change your life and not take advantage of it, like blaming immigrants for your problems. The internet is an oasis of free programs and courses, but people would indulge in socializing (Hanging out, watching the game, going to the bar, et'al) instead of self enhancement. There's not an Xbox or Wii in my house; laugh today, cry tomorrow!... I forgot to grammar check, so go easy on me.

[Diegoboy]

Yay for you! Here's your cookie!

[Diegoboy]

...or this?

[domwilson]

Darin, your star is dying, hurry up... your on the wrong platform, you should be a comedian. Conservatives educational doctrine is tunnel vision. plus no one dumb down your children (kids are goats) your children education is your responsibility not the governments, we same the have that same mentality when it comes to everything in this country, we live by proxy, we elect Politicians to life time terms with so accountability, so they can make our life easier, " Please ,oh Master Senator! what has thy done for 6 years? election is next week and I need accountability.

AUTODIDACT: proud to be one. School is there to indoctrinate you with the minimal requirements to give you a functional chance in society. Like grandma use to tell me, " you want it done, do it yourself". I taught myself: plumbing, carpentry, mechanics, electronics, electrics, sheet-rocking and lay tiles. Self studied MCSE, A+, Novell CNA, Working on CCNA, Rfid+ and CWNA , in addition to some FREE college( the courses are free but to turn them into credits you'll have to register with an accredited school ) credit DHS courses of the FEMA site. I' been working since 11 years old. I've learned while building my home, you pay people and they mess things up. Why not pay yourself?

That's why, I'll continue to say it! this country is filled with stupid people, why? because stupidity is having the ability and resources to change your life and not take advantage of it, like blaming immigrants for your problems. The internet is an oasis of free programs and courses, but people would indulge in socializing (Hanging out, watching the game, going to the bar, et'al) instead of self enhancement. There's not an Xbox or Wii in my house; laugh today, cry tomorrow!... I forgot to grammar check, so go easy on me.

Do you have links for the free IT training?

[domwilson]

Especially the cisco stuff.

[Darin Jordan]

plus no one dumb down your children (kids are goats) your children education is your responsibility not the governments,

DUDE... do you HAVE kids?? Did you NOT catch the part where I said how involved we were with ours ("no matter how much time we spend with them outside of school..." Ya... THAT part! )

My wife and I spend HUNDREDS of hours a year with our kids outside of school helping them learn the *!***!***!***!** that we learned while IN school... We started them at 3 with private educations to give them every opportunity to get ahead... We ARE doing everything we can afford to make sure they have every opportunity they can have... MAYBE if the government wouldn't take so much in taxes, we could do more...???

I find your statements in the previous post completely out of touch with what is really happening with our school systems... and you CERTAINLY can't speak to what my wife and I have done to help educate our kids... If you did, you'd realize just how rediculous you just sounded....

And Bill... as you should know by now, if you could see past the bias you have towards what you THINK I believe... I don't disagree with EVERYTHING on the left... Never saw the Michael Moore thing, but I do find it ironic that he'll make a movie like that, and then support the side that supports those who are doing the dumming down...