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  • AndyKunz
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Sep 2008
    • 1443

    #31
    You know what, Bill. I agree.

    Andy
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    • AndyKunz
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2008
      • 1443

      #32
      Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro View Post
      There must be some island we can just dump murderers, rapist and child molesters.
      San Francisco used to have one of those islands. Then they all moved ashore and took over the local government.

      Andy
      Spektrum Development Team

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      • Jeff Wohlt
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jan 2008
        • 2740

        #33
        Andy...now that was funny! We had many of the big names right here in the Jefferson City MSP.

        Wonder why we lived in fear and wanted to own guns in our little midwestern town? We had several breaks and the town would almost shut down and load their weapons.
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        • Bill-SOCAL
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Nov 2007
          • 1409

          #34
          This is kind of interesting. Most people who are murdered are killed by somebody they know. Around 2,300 people per year are murdered by a stranger.

          To put this in perspective about 3,300 people per year suffocate.

          So, for those of you who keep a gun under your pillow (literally or figuratively) you are more likely to suffocate than to be killed by a stranger. So be careful with that pillow!!!

          Put another way, homicide by stranger accounts for about 1% of all non-natural causes of death.

          Sadly, about 17,500 people per year die by suicide with a firearm. So almost 8 times as many people kill themselves with guns than are killed by strangers.
          Don't get me started

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          • Steven Vaccaro
            Administrator
            • Apr 2007
            • 8932

            #35
            Originally posted by Bill-SOCAL View Post
            Sadly until we as a country care more about what is really going on than who wins the NCAA tournament or American Idol, I doubt much will change.
            Are you serious, I live for March Madness! I wish I could move half as fast as any one of those athletes that played last night!

            In all seriousness, I do care, tell me where to start so I can get some real change done? Tell me how I stop "OUR" government from taking a giant lump of my profits and handing it to companies that don't deserve it? Tell me how I stop addiction, which is rampant and consuming "OUR" country? Tell me how to stop the illegal aliens from working under the table and not paying their fair share? I'm all ears?
            Steven Vaccaro

            Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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            • AndyKunz
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Sep 2008
              • 1443

              #36
              And just how many are murdered every year legally by a doctor?

              And how many more are murdered every year by somebody on alcohol?

              I think we need to address those issues first.

              Andy
              Spektrum Development Team

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              • Bill-SOCAL
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Nov 2007
                • 1409

                #37
                Thanks Andy for making my point. This irrational fear of being murdered in the streets as a justification for being armed is silly. There are far more real and present dangers which go largely ignored.

                In 2006, there were 13,470 fatalities in crashes involving an alcohol-impaired driver (BAC of .08 or higher) – 32 percent of total traffic fatalities for the year.
                Don't get me started

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                • AndyKunz
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1443

                  #38
                  Thanks for making mine too, Bill.

                  At least (for now) I can have the choice.

                  When I drive, I take precautions - I drive defensively, don't speed, wear my seat belt, etc.

                  That's what we're talking about - taking responsibility for our actions, taking responsibility for our choices, and protection ourselves to the best of our ability.

                  Andy
                  Spektrum Development Team

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                  • Steven Vaccaro
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 8932

                    #39
                    Originally posted by AndyKunz View Post

                    That's what we're talking about - taking responsibility for our actions, taking responsibility for our choices, and protection ourselves to the best of our ability.

                    Andy
                    Andy I know you believe that, but there is a large group of people that also believe that the government should be responsible for them. Changing this growing mentality isn't going to be easy with another 4 years worth of programs being started and funded.
                    Steven Vaccaro

                    Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                    • Dr. Jet
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1759

                      #40
                      P.S. I too, agree with Bill on that basketball/pro sports stuff. Sports are for morons. A bunch of over-paid cocaine addicts and hoodulums, all of them. Stereoids, player's strikes, dog fighting, shootouts, rapes, you name it. Sports used to create heros and idols. Now all they produce is two-bit thugs and criminals.

                      I haven't watched television since the 1980s (other than when visiting somebody that has one turned on). I don't know (or care) who shot JR. Sitcoms? They rot your mind. The only thing I have seen on TV worth a darn is on the History Channel or the Discovery Channel.
                      A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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                      • Flying Scotsman
                        Fast Electric Adict!
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 5195

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Dr. Jet View Post
                        P.S. I too, agree with Bill on that basketball/pro sports stuff. Sports are for morons. A bunch of over-paid cocaine addicts and hoodulums, all of them. Stereoids, player's strikes, dog fighting, shootouts, rapes, you name it. Sports used to create heros and idols. Now all they produce is two-bit thugs and criminals.

                        I haven't watched television since the 1980s (other than when visiting somebody that has one turned on). I don't know (or care) who shot JR. Sitcoms? They rot your mind. The only thing I have seen on TV worth a darn is on the History Channel or the Discovery Channel.

                        Amen, but I do like motor racing, F1 and rally racing..Nascar no

                        Douggie

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                        • Steven Vaccaro
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 8932

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Dr. Jet View Post
                          P.S. I too, agree with Bill on that basketball/pro sports stuff. Sports are for morons. A bunch of over-paid cocaine addicts and hoodulums, all of them. Stereoids, player's strikes, dog fighting, shootouts, rapes, you name it. Sports used to create heros and idols. Now all they produce is two-bit thugs and criminals.
                          WOW, talk about painiting with a brush the size of a house! I'd be willing to bet you a dinner that the percentage of those problems are not any larger than whats happening outside of profesional sports.

                          I guess in your book I'm a moron. I can live with that
                          Steven Vaccaro

                          Where Racing on a Budget is a Reality!

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                          • Flying Scotsman
                            Fast Electric Adict!
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 5195

                            #43
                            The problem Steven is our inability to live with our faillings in sports. We watch the some very questionable athletes that perform in some sports where we know they have taken drugs and we state I could have done that if I had taken ???

                            Douggie

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                            • bustitup
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3072

                              #44
                              rant rant rant all you want about the worlds problems and keep saying we don't need to sleep with a gun under our pillows "figuratively or literally" of course......the truth is ALL this *!***!***!***!** is going on around us and it ain't going to change any time soon...its only going to get worse and when there's no fuel or no food on the shelve then men will become dogs in the street and turn into road warriors...we live on a fine line gentlemen

                              so ask yourself this...would you rather have a gun under your pillow to protect your loved ones or Not?....I wouldn't

                              I would rather have a AK47 under my bed
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                              • Dr. Jet
                                Fast Electric Addict!
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1759

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Steven Vaccaro View Post
                                WOW, talk about painiting with a brush the size of a house! I'd be willing to bet you a dinner that the percentage of those problems are not any larger than whats happening outside of profesional sports.

                                I guess in your book I'm a moron. I can live with that
                                Maybe that was a bit of a broad-brush statement, but for the most part, I think pro sports have degraded into something not worthy of the financial and emotional investment it currently receives.

                                You make HOW many millions for playing a GAME? A freeking game? Jeeze, you certainly can get a LOT of tatoos for that kind of money, can't you? Maybe if that same effort went into teaching our kids to read and write...... And maybe a good solid dose of U.S. History; and not that touchy-feely, politically-(in)correct version either. Teach them the truth of men like Madison, Jefferson, Payne, Franklin, Handcock, Washington, Adams and the like. Teach them why Francis Scott Key wrote the "Star-Spanglrd Banner".

                                Come on down to sunny Southern Mexifornia for that dinner my friend, it's on me.....
                                A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves

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